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		<title>Comment on The 8-7-6-5 by Raptor</title>
		<link>http://evolutionaryathletics.com/blogs/raptor/2010/02/05/the-8-7-6-5/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey great article! Was wondering if this rep scheme could be applicable to other things then the squat.
For instance upper body workouts..using the intensity phase...training upper body 2x a week. Could one use BB bench press one day (or incline), then db presses the 2nd upper body day in that week...obviously followed by chins, rows, pullups etc? Other assistance work could be curls, but not much else would be needed I would think, maybe a set or 2 of triceps if one desires. What do you think? I think recovery would be alright because here BB benching your using a heavier load, but on the DB&#039;s one can&#039;t use as heavy as a load, so it would give a little bit of a break.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I really don&#039;t have much experience with upper body lifts since I don&#039;t really need upper body strength but yes, I think you could use the 8-7-6-5 for that too. I for one am using it with my bench press.

I think what your saying is pretty good, I see no reason why it would not work. Since the 8-7-6-5 is working as a progression, then just follow it, adjust it as needed (when you hit the points I talked about) and after the cycle is over either restart it with your new found strength as the threshold for selecting the starting weight or get into more dynamic stuff like upperbody plyometrics or speed bench presses, med ball throws etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hey great article! Was wondering if this rep scheme could be applicable to other things then the squat.<br />
For instance upper body workouts..using the intensity phase&#8230;training upper body 2x a week. Could one use BB bench press one day (or incline), then db presses the 2nd upper body day in that week&#8230;obviously followed by chins, rows, pullups etc? Other assistance work could be curls, but not much else would be needed I would think, maybe a set or 2 of triceps if one desires. What do you think? I think recovery would be alright because here BB benching your using a heavier load, but on the DB&#8217;s one can&#8217;t use as heavy as a load, so it would give a little bit of a break.</p></blockquote>
<p>I really don&#8217;t have much experience with upper body lifts since I don&#8217;t really need upper body strength but yes, I think you could use the 8-7-6-5 for that too. I for one am using it with my bench press.</p>
<p>I think what your saying is pretty good, I see no reason why it would not work. Since the 8-7-6-5 is working as a progression, then just follow it, adjust it as needed (when you hit the points I talked about) and after the cycle is over either restart it with your new found strength as the threshold for selecting the starting weight or get into more dynamic stuff like upperbody plyometrics or speed bench presses, med ball throws etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The 8-7-6-5 by Raptor</title>
		<link>http://evolutionaryathletics.com/blogs/raptor/2010/02/05/the-8-7-6-5/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks man. The article would&#039;ve been even larger if I were to take into account every (well, almost) occurence that could happen.

I mean, you can have a hard time sleeping before a workout that coincides with the third strike and think you&#039;re reached the stagnation, when in reality it was just a bad moment. Still, doing a bit less isn&#039;t going to kill anyone so that&#039;s why I left it out.

The point is that if enough common sense is used, things should be simple enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks man. The article would&#8217;ve been even larger if I were to take into account every (well, almost) occurence that could happen.</p>
<p>I mean, you can have a hard time sleeping before a workout that coincides with the third strike and think you&#8217;re reached the stagnation, when in reality it was just a bad moment. Still, doing a bit less isn&#8217;t going to kill anyone so that&#8217;s why I left it out.</p>
<p>The point is that if enough common sense is used, things should be simple enough.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The 8-7-6-5 by Dreambrother</title>
		<link>http://evolutionaryathletics.com/blogs/raptor/2010/02/05/the-8-7-6-5/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreambrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fantastic article, there are shades of Glenn Pendlay, as far as he approaches his 5x5, but where he has stated &#039;good coaching/experience helps makes judgement calls to progress&#039;(paraphrase), you have laid out a wonderful framework with guidelines. Many thanks and kudos to you Raptor and the evo team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fantastic article, there are shades of Glenn Pendlay, as far as he approaches his 5&#215;5, but where he has stated &#8216;good coaching/experience helps makes judgement calls to progress&#8217;(paraphrase), you have laid out a wonderful framework with guidelines. Many thanks and kudos to you Raptor and the evo team</p>
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		<title>Comment on The equation of jumping by Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Da, mersi, Craciun Fericit si tie!

Ce zici de asta: squat la cos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Da, mersi, Craciun Fericit si tie!</p>
<p>Ce zici de asta: squat la cos.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The equation of jumping by Miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kool. Craciun Fericit, man!
 
&quot;Ce zici de asta: sari la cos.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kool. Craciun Fericit, man!</p>
<p>&#8220;Ce zici de asta: sari la cos.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eastern training conditions by brandon green</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandon green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I have to tell ya that i am impressed with what the eastern bloc has done despite deplorable conditions. From what i hear from Jay Schroeder,Ben Tabachnick (personal conversations plus his book) in Russia(former Ussr),different republics and different levels of athletes had different conditions. Olympians pretty well off(no comparison with U.S. professionals of course).
A real lack of facilities and quality food despite some fantastic supplements(Ratibol,Alces-V,Rantarin,Eleuthero,Inosine-F)drugs(won&#039;t get into this one) and training knowledge(Gymnastics and Track for gpp, the correct application and use of the Oly lifts for many athletes,EMS,downhill sprints,parachutes etc.).
Brandon Green</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I have to tell ya that i am impressed with what the eastern bloc has done despite deplorable conditions. From what i hear from Jay Schroeder,Ben Tabachnick (personal conversations plus his book) in Russia(former Ussr),different republics and different levels of athletes had different conditions. Olympians pretty well off(no comparison with U.S. professionals of course).<br />
A real lack of facilities and quality food despite some fantastic supplements(Ratibol,Alces-V,Rantarin,Eleuthero,Inosine-F)drugs(won&#8217;t get into this one) and training knowledge(Gymnastics and Track for gpp, the correct application and use of the Oly lifts for many athletes,EMS,downhill sprints,parachutes etc.).<br />
Brandon Green</p>
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		<title>Comment on The importance of isometric tension for the running jump by Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I believe I did. I did a standing vertical jump. Then I did an isometric good-morning or isometric RDL (I don&#039;t remember exactly) and then, after a 3 minute break, I tested the standing vertical jump again I got 5 cm (2 inches) higher. The same thing happened to a guy I was training with.

I don&#039;t remember the load % though. I think something like 50% of 1RM and the hold duration of about 10 seconds.

So, in short, yes, I did and it works, and not just for me. It&#039;s funny how people react to it after they do it, they&#039;re like &quot;oh man, this is what I need to do&quot; :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I believe I did. I did a standing vertical jump. Then I did an isometric good-morning or isometric RDL (I don&#8217;t remember exactly) and then, after a 3 minute break, I tested the standing vertical jump again I got 5 cm (2 inches) higher. The same thing happened to a guy I was training with.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember the load % though. I think something like 50% of 1RM and the hold duration of about 10 seconds.</p>
<p>So, in short, yes, I did and it works, and not just for me. It&#8217;s funny how people react to it after they do it, they&#8217;re like &#8220;oh man, this is what I need to do&#8221; <img src='http://evolutionaryathletics.com/blogs/raptor/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>Comment on The importance of isometric tension for the running jump by Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raptor, have you ever done any Isometric stimulation prior to an explosive movement? ie something similar to andrew darquis isometric back extension stimulation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raptor, have you ever done any Isometric stimulation prior to an explosive movement? ie something similar to andrew darquis isometric back extension stimulation?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The importance of isometric tension for the running jump by Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s all a matter of increased body awareness and control, because, at least for me, these things happen automatically without me even thinking about them. The idea is that isometric training should not be thrown away and that the isometric training for athleticism is a bit counter-intuitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s all a matter of increased body awareness and control, because, at least for me, these things happen automatically without me even thinking about them. The idea is that isometric training should not be thrown away and that the isometric training for athleticism is a bit counter-intuitive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The importance of isometric tension for the running jump by brandon greeen</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandon greeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I have found that the gymnastics training i have been doing has increased my body &quot;tension&quot; even when doing curls! Body tenson had made a difference in all my lifts!
Brandon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I have found that the gymnastics training i have been doing has increased my body &#8220;tension&#8221; even when doing curls! Body tenson had made a difference in all my lifts!<br />
Brandon</p>
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